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Creditor Harassment, the FDCPA and the Rosenthal Act

Debt collectors calling you at work, threatening arrest, or telling your sister about your balance are breaking the law, and both federal and California law give you a private right to sue them for it. The federal FDCPA covers third-party collectors and debt buyers. California's Rosenthal Act goes further and reaches the original creditor too.

That second point matters here. In most states, the bank that issued your card can behave in ways a collection agency cannot. In California, it largely cannot.

What is off limits

  • Calling before 8 a.m. or after 9 p.m. in your time zone.
  • Calling you at work after you have told them, orally or in writing, that your employer prohibits it.
  • Discussing your debt with family, neighbors or coworkers. They may contact third parties only to locate you, and cannot say why they are calling.
  • Threatening arrest, criminal prosecution, or wage garnishment they have no legal ability or intention to pursue.
  • Misrepresenting the amount owed, or claiming to be an attorney or a government official when they are not.
  • Continuing to call after you have sent a written request that they stop contacting you.
  • Repeated calls intended to annoy or harass, which is measured by pattern, not a single magic number.

Under the FDCPA, a successful claim can produce actual damages, statutory damages up to $1,000, and attorney fees paid by the collector. The Rosenthal Act has its own remedy structure and applies to a broader set of actors.

Build the record

Claims are won on documentation and lost on memory. Start a log today, even if you never sue.

  1. Log every call. Date, time, the number that appeared, the name given, what was said.
  2. Save voicemails. Do not delete them when your phone nags you about storage.
  3. Screenshot texts and keep emails with full headers.
  4. Keep envelopes. Postmarks establish timing.
  5. Send a written cease contact request by mail and keep proof of mailing. Calls that continue after that are much easier to prove.

California is a two-party consent state

Recording a phone call without all parties' consent is a crime here under Penal Code 632. Do not record collectors secretly. You can announce that you are recording and proceed if they stay on the line, and many will hang up, which itself tells you something. A written log plus saved voicemails is safer and works fine.

How this interacts with bankruptcy

Filing ends the calls by a different mechanism. The automatic stay makes collection contact itself unlawful, and after discharge a permanent injunction takes over. Most people who come in for harassment stop being harassed because they filed, not because they sued.

An FDCPA or Rosenthal claim you already have is an asset of your bankruptcy estate. It has to be listed on your schedules. Leaving it off is how people lose the claim entirely, because an unscheduled claim can end up owned by the trustee or barred later. Tell your attorney about the calls even if you have no interest in suing anyone.

“A client of mine kept a spiral notebook by the phone for four months. Fifty-one entries, including one collector who told her the sheriff would come to her house. That notebook was worth more than anything else in her file. I'll be blunt about the flip side, though. Most harassment cases are worth a few thousand dollars, and if you have $60,000 of debt, the claim is not the answer to your actual problem.”

Naomi Reyes-Ashford

What is not harassment

Collectors are allowed to contact you. They are allowed to be persistent and unpleasant. They are allowed to sue you if the debt is valid and within the four-year statute of limitations for written contracts in California. Rudeness alone is not a claim, and neither is calling twice in a week.

The line is drawn at deception, at third-party disclosure, at threats of things they cannot legally do, and at a pattern of contact whose purpose is to wear you down.

Questions we get asked

Does telling them to stop calling erase the debt?

No. A cease contact request ends the calls, but the creditor retains every other right, including filing suit. Sometimes it accelerates a lawsuit, because talking to you was the cheaper option they just lost.

Who does the Rosenthal Act cover that the FDCPA doesn't?

Original creditors. The FDCPA generally applies to third-party collectors and debt buyers collecting someone else's debt. California's Rosenthal Act extends most of the same conduct rules to the company you originally borrowed from.

They called my mother. Is that a violation?

Likely, if they disclosed the debt or called her repeatedly. Collectors may contact third parties to locate you, once, and may not state that you owe money. Write down exactly what your mother was told, in her words.

Can I sue and file bankruptcy at the same time?

Yes, and it is common. The claim must be scheduled as an asset in your case. Depending on its value and available exemptions, you may be able to keep the recovery, or the trustee may pursue it. Disclose it either way.

Start the call log tonight with whatever you can reconstruct from your phone's recent calls list, then bring it and your total debt figure to a video consultation at (310) 555-0184.

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